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  • Texas Traffic Points System

    Hey Guys and Gals,

    Found this on a website and thought you might be interested.

    The Driver Responsibility law (in House bill 3588) establishes a system that assigns points to moving violations classified as Class C misdemeanors and applies surcharges to offenders.

    For each conviction, DPS will assign points to a person’s license as follows:

    Two points for a moving violation conviction in Texas or that of another state.
    Three points for a moving violation conviction in Texas or another state that resulted in a vehicle crash.
    Points will not be assigned for speeding less than 10% over the posted limit or seat belt convictions.
    Points remain on the driver record for a period of three years. This program does not replace other administrative suspension, revocations or cancellation actions that result from these same convictions.

    Driver surcharges
    DPS will assess a surcharge when the driver accumulates a total of six points or more on their record during a three-year period. The driver must pay a $100 surcharge for the first six points and $25 for each additional point.

    Annual surcharges for certain convictions
    A first-time DWI results in a $1,000 surcharge, paid annually for three years. A second-time DWI results in a $1,500 surcharge, paid annually for three years. The charges are cumulative. For example a driver could pay $1,000 as a result of their first DWI and an additional $1,500 for their second DWI, paying a total of $2,500 annually.

    A conviction for driving while license is invalid or failure to maintain financial responsibility results in a surcharge of $250, paid annually for three years. A driver who is convicted of driving without a valid license receives a $100 per year surcharge for three years.

    The surcharge assessed for this program is in addition to other reinstatement fees required for other administrative actions.

  • #2
    Oh yeah... now I remember seeing that before and being stunned at the greediness of it.

    It couldn't be any more clear to me that this law is all about soaking people for money and not about safety. Points systems in other states, as I understand them, center around license suspensions etc for bad drivers. This just places another tax on 'em.

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    • #3
      Of course it does. But who is to complain (or if they do, who will have any sympathy for the people affected)?

      Easy politicians' cop-out....
      "Blue Oh-Two" (#424)
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      • #4
        well, we keep electing the dumbasses. I actually used to own an online store that sold t-shirts. One of them said "Stop electing politicians, vote independant"
        (I still have a few copies and wear them regularly)

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        • #5
          Michigan has similar laws the fines may be a bit different but the bite on your wallet is huge. You can also get jail time with your first two DWI which are still misdemeanors. Plus you might have to go to a substance abuse programs which you have to pay for. In Michigan things get real nasty with your third DWI as you become a felon. You could end up in State Prison for a year or more not the county jail for that.

          Also If you are DWI and cause an accident which results in death of another driver you could be charged with Second Degree Murder. Many county prosecutors are going that route and some have been successful in getting some very heavy Prison sentences, like 15 to 20 years for this.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Kaiser442
            Oh yeah... now I remember seeing that before and being stunned at the greediness of it.

            It couldn't be any more clear to me that this law is all about soaking people for money and not about safety. Points systems in other states, as I understand them, center around license suspensions etc for bad drivers. This just places another tax on 'em.
            Perhaps, but the goal may be to make it painful enough so that you are aware of your point status and when you start getting up there in points, you might be more careful on the road. If not, they hit you in the wallet. Money motivates people to make changes in their habbits.

            It did me, got my first ticket in 10 years for speeding and I went out an purchased a V1. While I had been contiplating picking one up for sometime, I was not really motivated to do it since it had been so long since I got a speeding ticket. It only took one for me to jump online and order it.

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            • #7
              Just be careful that V1 doesn't give you a false sense of security. I've known friends to get more tickets w/ a detector than w/o one, and the danger is even greater w/ laser (the beam is narrow enough that a read on your plate, for instance, miight not even trigger your detector, and when they do go off w/ laser, it basically means you're caught before you can do anything).

              Both my car and truck have always on Escorts, but they're not a foolproof tool.
              Chris



              '13 Civic Si sedan
              '08 Ridgeline RTL
              '02 Z06

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              • #8
                My driving habbits have not really changed over the years. I have always been a leadfoot. As such, I have always been very observant while driving. I am always scanning the roads, on ramps, off ramps, etc. I have learned to spot headlights of police cars at night. In fact, I am more observant while driving my car than my truck because I know I drive faster in my car.

                None of that stops because of a detector. I will continue to watch the roads closely, it is just that this adds another layer of protection for the times that I may not catch them.

                This would have been handy when I got pulled over last week. The police was hidden behind so signs where the 290 ends and merges into the frontage road. As I was slowing to match traffic on the frontage road, I just did not slow enough, my mind was on other things and as mentioned, I was just not as observant in my truck because I don't drive it as aggressively as I do the S, so I just missed him. A detector would have helped me then. I should probably pick up a cheaper unit for my other vehicles.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Java
                  As I was slowing to match traffic on the frontage road, I just did not slow enough, my mind was on other things...
                  This is exactly the reason I picked up my own V1 when I got the extra cash.

                  I got slapped with a ticket because my mind was on other things and it didn't register with me that the speed changed from 40 to 30 mph 50 feet back. I was honest with the officer, polite, respectful, and still got a ticket.

                  It pisses me off because more and more I feel like they are there to extract some sort of tax and I don't like to think that about the police. Ask me sometime about getting a ticket while on my bicycle.


                  "Give me an open road, without a cloud in the sky, and a group of friends where the only sound you hear is the sound of tires rolling across the pavement."

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                  2006 Laguna Blue Pearl - "blue vader" (retired)

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                  • #10
                    Literally 50 feet? I know that in Illinois the cops cannot give you a ticket if they tag you for speeding within 150 feet of a speed sign...

                    Might want to check that out for next time.
                    "Blue Oh-Two" (#424)
                    Rick's header, Hondata gasket, Mugen thermostat/fan switch, Mugen radiator cap, Aussie mirror, Lucid's rear speakers, Alpine CDA-7893R & KCE-865B, Muz's saddlebag, Windscreen Light, Modifry's glove box organizer and lots of Zaino!

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                    • #11
                      Java,

                      Your driving habits seem very similar to mine. I also 'scan' each oncoming car while driving and watch for police on on-ramps, off-ramps, bridges(between Dallas & Lubbock), and rest stop entrances and exits.

                      I often 'see' the cop before they use their radar, so it is best to not let your guard down and completely rely on the radar detector.
                      Thanks,
                      Joe


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                      • #12
                        That makes 3 of us...


                        '06 Laguna Blue - Sold

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kaiser442
                          Oh yeah... now I remember seeing that before and being stunned at the greediness of it.

                          ... Points systems in other states, as I understand them, center around license suspensions etc for bad drivers. This just places another tax on 'em.
                          In Michigan it's both an effort to get points to get you off the road and to really put the bite in your wallet. They will go as far as to pull the plate off your car so no one drives it not just drunken dad or mom.

                          The focus is on getting drunks off the read. We had a case a few months ago where a man's entire family, Wife and two kids were killed by a drunk in a GMC Denali doing 80 in a 35, at 3 pm. The idiot had a alcohol level of .29. The prosecutor got a 2nd degree murder conviction and the guy is doing 20 years. However, in another case a guy just as drunk creamed and killed cop who had another drunk driver under arrest in the back of the police car. That drunk was also tried for 2nd degree murder, but the jury acquitted him of that charge and gave him 30 days in jail. So it all depends on your jury.

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